Last Monday I was one of three guests on KALW’s City Lights radio show talking about distraction in the digital age. It was a great deal of fun.

The station is located in South San Francisco, and after some time with the map, I decided that it wouldn’t be too hard to get there from the Caltrain station. (I’m on a bit of an anti-car jag at the moment: not only do I have longstanding ideological and financial objections to car ownership– it often feels to me like owning a car is one of those things that puts you on an infinite loop of work, worse health, etc.) Unfortunately, I didn’t check to elevation change between the train station and the radio station.

It turned out to be pretty substantial. That part of South San Francisco is identical to the rest of the city. On the upside, it’s a great quad workout.

The station itself is in a high school at the crest of a hill, so if you’re on the correct side, you get some great view of the city. Alas, we were not on one of those right side.

Still, it was a good time. I talked about the book, other people talked about their work, we took some calls, and with breathtaking speed the station released the podcast of the show.

I’ve never done an interview with a host in a studio before; the closest I’ve come is to be in a studio at Stanford, talking to an interviewer in Australia. Not quite the same thing.

Then I walked up some hills, around some hills, and finally down some hills, back to the train station.

So it was a bit more of an adventure than I expected, but it was well worth it. This is very much a subject I believe in, and really believe it’s worth talking about– even if it means crossing a few hills to do it.